Maybe a NEWB mode that prints it out? To date, PMDG has not necessarily been known for eye candy; an accurate rating for the external models of previous years might be solid work. The following NON-NORMAL procedures from the Boeing However, a few isolated but relevant problems will definitely still have to be fixed. OMG this makes no sense, top three switches you could literally be talking about any number of switches lol, Also had this issue, good to have you guys around to help us learn this complex aircraft. For example : the landing gear warning horn sounds continuously if you are at flaps 15+ without the gear down. <>
By This page was generated at 03:28. CRZ alt and DES alt was set correctly in the pressurization panel so what else should I be checking? However, I have to deduct more than a few points for one of my favourite procedures, the automatic go-around. But the thing that really amused me slightly was RSRs explanation for why the throttle quadrant was left out: He said it was due to lack of time. Did we ever figure out what caused the dual bleed trip? "A latent failure of both pressure switches could result in the loss of cabin altitude warning, which could delay flight crew recognition of a lack of cabin pressurization, and result in incapacitation of the flight crew due to hypoxia (a lack of oxygen in the body), and consequent loss of control of the airplane," the agency said. Holger: In spite of everything, we find ourselves in a two-dimensional world: We sit at a computer screen and try to operate a simulated three-dimensional world using a mouse. #1 Tobble 11. In cases such as these, this also applies to vertical navigation, where a target speed sometimes does not behave the way it should. Here, the developers blundered! It can also happen that you experience lockups if you tweak the routing too much in flight. endobj
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Holger: When the BAe Jetstream was released, Robert Randazzo, the head of PMDG, wrote that there would be no more add-ons with 2D panels. Review : SXAirportDesign El Paso International Airport P3D5, Review : RFscenerybuilding Brussels South Charleroi International Airport P3D5, Review : Pro Flight Trainer PUMA X and Flight Sim Coach experience with MSFS, MLD Scenery LRIA Iasi Announced for MSFS, Configuration of the aircraft from the cockpit without a restart, Crash to desktop (CTD) on some systems (see PMDG support forum). As a result of this, the A pillar in these airplanes is more inclined, and the bulge does not remind me as much of the nose of my former Latin teacher as the one in the PMDG. Dr. Stefan Benzinger is a physician in Dachau and has been a member of the simFlight review team for half a year. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. You can probably tell that many of these questions will not interest most virtual Boeing captains, who follow the motto: Can I use this to recreate my last summer holiday flight or not? But those who have knowledge of the subject matter and know what the different configuration options mean will find great satisfaction in them. is there a tutorial on how to set this correctly and not get the annoying alarm? If you consider that the database consists of several tens of thousands of procedures, you can certainly imagine that there can always be a flaw somewhere. Holger: Oski will be more familiar with the acoustic environment than us after all, he is much more familiar with the sound from the front left seat. endobj
Oski: Well, it would be easy to hand out superlatives. You may have to register before you can post: click the register Firstly it's amazing!!! Stefan, can this complexity actually be operated well? x[O0Oj3{1yy'>Mw{4o%w8MO]]Q/i2'wrtwQ-adceB(3Is+PXj42nW29;N$=)r@ Q|
H7d*'q$HzpoF.5uj K6[I$%=Up@.N)! PMDG obviously did not want to expose themselves on this flank, which is why the add-on contains a balanced mixture of detail and functionality, without losing itself in resource-hungry bling-bling a la CaptainSim. Highly integrated exterior, interior cabin and flight deck sound environments. Can the PMDG be flown by the numbers? But those who know me know that I generally dont do this, as no further improvement is possible beyond a superlative. For PMDG, this is already the second time they have created a Boeing 737 NG: In 2003, they released the first version, which was implemented for FS2002 and FS2004. The reason is simple: The PMDG B737 NGX has really been simulated almost completely in all systems including Flight Guidance, of course. It seems all the more understandable, then, that such a calculation can, on occasion, go awry To be quite clear: The absolute majority of customers do not have any problems with the product, and PMDG has already released a hotfix to help customers that are suffering crashes. I dont think much of the superlatives that are so commonly used today. Does the PMDG fly precisely? To me, at least, part of the fun of simming consists of flying different aircraft types. Look for "Edit Post Signature." If there is something to find fault with in comparison with a real autopilot it would be that turns are sometimes initiated a bit harshly in normal LNAV cruise. The systems simulation adds substantially to the hours of enjoyable flying. Stefan: Youre completely right. You need to set the outflow valve to auto. We do this in order to keep conversations personal and familiar. This is because, strangely enough, the throttle quadrant does not have its own 2D panel. this is my hometown and i want this really b, Wonderful My Father-in-law Bombed the Hell out of Bremen. Cabin Altitude Warning - PMDG Simulations. You always stop PACKS for Takeoffs & Landings too in case of a Go-Around. The hydraulic cylinders of the slaps and flaps are also modelled in 3D. In the first few days after the release, there were also some slightly disappointed comments from time to time. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. Stefan: Another example: The elevators have trim tabs with their own animations at extreme deflections, they move in opposite directions. There is always something that hums, buzzes or beeps. Holger: Stefan, if you look at photos of a real 737 NG and compare them with the PMDG copy, you conclude that it comes pretty close to the original. Have fun! We had already presented it on simFlight.de, but we would rather mention it again in case someone hasnt seen it yet. PMDG 737 Cabin Altitude warning - Aircraft - Microsoft The FAA requires every airplane with a pressurized cabin to include a system that warns the flight crew of cabin depressurization. But these are minor points, and moreover they depend on subjective perception. Did you set your cruise altitude on the overhead? A few months ago I treated myself to a new computer because I finally wanted to max out FSX and be prepared for products like the PMDG 737NG. But this is something I generally dont do after all, I want to assess the sound of the model I bought, not the model I fiddled around with. The one question that remains is about the reviewers choice. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Here at the Benzinger home, it is customary that I build a Revell model kit for every new FS add-on I buy and in this case, the PMDG model clearly beats it! So lets leave it at very good or excellent. No doubt there will always be some room for discussion whether the trim sound, say, is too quiet or whether the spoiler extension on landing sounds quite so or a bit different. This is very inconvenient and detracts from the overall impression. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. Our reviewers Oskar Wagner, Dr. Stefan Benzinger und Holger Kistermann have taken a closer look at the Boeing 737-800 / -900. Cabin altitude alarm on 737-800NGX, I dont know how to We do so because we feel that forums in which users must engage one another personally are generally warmer, more collegial and friendly. The only weakness I have found in this regard is the way the engine loses thrust when the fuel lever is closed. It is, after all, more realistic in the end if all necessary instruments and systems are in plain view. The NG, too, can perform a go-around from a fail-operational dual autoland configuration, but the NGX cant. The image galleries on airliners.net dont really help either, because many of the images have been post-processed and stretched. The FAA said it doesn't have enough information yet to explain why the failure rate of the switches is "unexpectedly high" and recommended that airlines return any failed switches so that the switch manufacturer, which it didn't name, could investigate the issue. In PMDGs forum, Robert S. Randazzo, the head of PMDG, confers the highest accolades on his sound designer, and I would like to echo this praise. Stefan: A few months ago I treated myself to a new computer because I finally wanted to max out FSX and be prepared for products like the PMDG 737NG. This is fun! Fully customized system simulation for all major and minor aircraft systems and components. But I have every trust in the expertise of PMDGs team and in the communitys swarm intelligence. But it is only natural that the cooperation with Boeing which has been stressed time and again and the use of original plans and blueprints should also have its effects here, and not only on systems depth. Hardcore simmers will surely be delighted to note that printed manuals are available covering everything from Crew Training to the Quick Reference Handbook. And if the nitpickers now go searching for non-functional switches or panels, they will quickly find something in this area: The radar image, which can also be overlaid on the ND, does not exist. Holger: The complexity is of course not restricted to the systems simulation but continues with the visual model. High complexity, good design and great sound do not necessarily guarantee that flying the PMDG will provide hours of fun with lots of ahhhs and ohhhs. For my taste, the air conditioning is a bit too loud but unfortunately I dont know the B737 from practice. I have to say, though, that I dont have any real aircraft experience to compare to, nor do I have the time to climb into one of the fixed-based simulators in my vicinity. Interchangeable equipment options for cockpit instrumentation There is no question: PMDG has set a milestone in the history of Microsoft Flight Simulator! Frank Schmidts review of the Diamond Katana might have something to do with that I now have an i7 Sandy Bridge processor (2600K) that runs at up to 3.8 GHz. But opting out of some of these cookies may have an effect on your browsing experience. The directive includes the 737 Max. But they do occur: In the PMDG forums, more than a few customers have been puzzled by sudden crashes not crashes from the cruise flight levels but ones of a technical nature. Did you set your cruise altitude on the overhead? By default its at 10,000 and if your cruise level is going to be 35,000 feet for example you need I dont know. A reload of the aircraft is not required, which can save a huge amount of time. Join the flight experience and to troubleshoot for CTDs OOM Crash Free operation of FSX a.s.o. This is an extreme feat, and to us lay people, it is hard to grasp that it is even possible to execute such a procedure many times a second without a hitch. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The PMDG 737-900 for Microsoft Flight Simulator, my comment does not break any of the above rules, Always protect yourself when downloading Torrents, Flightbeam Studios NZAA Auckland International Airport v1.2.0, iniBuilds NZQN Queenstown Airport v1.0.1, iniBuilds KOKC Will Rogers World / Oklahoma City Airport v1.0.2, WorldSky Studios WIMM Kualanamu International Airport v1.0.0, IndiaFoxtEcho AmericaClass LHA Ships v1.1.0, Airwil Sceneries RPME Bancasi / Butuan Airport v2.0.0, Airwil Sceneries RPMG Dipolog Airport v1.3.0, BEAUTIFUL MODEL of the WORLD KMRY Monterey Regional Airport v1.2.0, BEAUTIFUL MODEL of the WORLD LEPP Pamplona Airport v1.0.1 (New Build), 1. I think I just forgot to turn the L and R recirc fans back on after engine start. Cabin Altitude - PMDG Simulations The radar panel is dead! Read more: Amazon's Prime Air drone delivery team has had higher turnover than the rest of the company as launch delays and internal tensions roil the division. No attacking of other commenters (including insulting, threatening, trolling, baiting, flaming), 2. Valve Corporation. pmdg 737-600 cabin altitude warning :: Microsoft Flight Oski: Particularly innovative is not something you can really call the NG and here I mean the real aircraft even if NG stands for New Generation. Why do I have that red warning light and how can I solve it? It is the same loud noise as the beep alarm that sounds when you aren't in takeoff configuration. Advanced animations techniques leveraging the new MSFS engine to truly bring the 737 flight deck to life. This also implies that single engine flight is simulated quite well at least in terms of performance. You can familiarize yourself with all of the complexity of correct system operation to a very large degree if you put in the necessary effort. Full set of ground equipment for each aircraft type, including passenger servicing vehicles. Or if I adjust the bank limiter instead of the heading bug? 2 0 obj
After this review, we will write a comparison between PMDG and iFly. It is very nicely done and deserves a very good rating. I went to my doors page on the fmc and found that cargo hatch was left open and was unable to close it in the air. It issued a directive ordering that airlines check them for faults. Exterior values: Model, performance, and sound, First impressions count, as they say. Holger: I always enjoy it when an add-on surprises me. I can imagine that on the B737 the difference in engine sound from the shortest to the longest variant is quite noticeable I know it is like this between the A319 and the A321. check out the. Provided, that is, that they have suitably powerful hardware. Simply ignoring the alarm will lead to an almost certain crash, as shown by flight Helios 522, which never pressurised and crashed due to fuel exhaustion. To me, the acoustic environment in the cockpit is tightly woven and convincing. In the first few days after the release, there were also some slightly disappointed comments from time to time. Nothing to do with the ALT horn going off Paul. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Also make sure ALTN is set to AUTO not MAN. Why dont I say it deserves the maximum rating? Can't figure it out. With winglets or without. as well as other partner offers and accept our. Sign up for a new account in our community. I think my Nvidea GeForce 9800 GT would give it a run for its money. Or if the FMC crashes completely because sloppily programmed clickspots cause me to flip the wrong switch on the overhead and power down the flight computers? If it breaks any of the above rules or can be easily answered by our FAQ, it will be deleted. endobj
PMDG enable their customers to equip their aircraft as they please the real aircraft is available in different configurations, and the same is possible in the simulator. The exterior and interior model are based on the original blueprints from Seattle. Oski: Well, its always a bit difficult to judge the sound on a PC. All new hi-fidelity models with superb detail Beautifully crafted exterior and interior models built over contemporary detailed plans and However, a few isolated but relevant problems will definitely still have to be fixed. The horn only goes off if the cabin alt goes too high. To date, PMDG has not necessarily been known for eye candy; an accurate rating for the external models of previous years might be solid work. How to align irs and fix cabin altitude warning (Zibo b738) Another example: The elevators have trim tabs with their own animations at extreme deflections, they move in opposite directions. For FSX, this is a real quantum leap and the system is perfect for the PMDG 737 NGX. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7lO0kYwdqo. AVSIM Online - Simming's Premier Resource! My experience with real world autopilots has been consistently good and definitely on the level of simulator autopilots if I may make the comparison in the reverse direction for once. All they do is allow the packs to run at a lower airflow rate to improve fuel economy. Also, flaps and spoilers have to be assigned to a key combination or joystick axis if you want to fly in 2D mode only, or you have to switch to the VC to operate them with the mouse. This is one of the few rigid rules that we enforce regularly. This means it is certainly worth your time to take a look at an up-to-date manual. In principle, it does not take particular effort to fly. All of these models will only be available for FSX; an FS2004 version is not planned after all, such a product already exists in the shape of version 1. No requests for links to similar sites like SimPlaza, 8. They were set to 38000ft cruise alt and 150ft landing alt on both occasions. A home PC in a standard configuration is enough. I was a little surprised that the 737 NGX now has one after all. The way Oski describes it you probably dont have much time for wild mouse acrobatics. This New Generation has a few years under its belt now, and the overhead panel really doesnt look exactly super-modern to put it mildly. In the beginning, the acoustic backdrop seemed almost too loud to me, but if I hark back to the pre-9/11 era I recall that various airliner cockpit visits at the time really left a similar impression on me. But it doesnt do us this favour; instead, the engine spools down to zero quite calmly, which may be much more pleasant from a flyability point of view but does not correspond to reality. Holger, on the other hand, has already been unlucky several times. I dont know. The first steps are PPAA -> Power Performance Analysis Action to achieve safe single-engine flight; next, we want to restore system redundancy to the degree possible while of course not forgetting to navigate and under coordination with ATC to manoeuvre to a position from which, after re-programming the FMC, a single engine approach can be made to the departure airport, if this is possible from a meteorological and operational point of view. Who knows, maybe an update will address this. Whereas only a few months ago there was talk in forums and magazines about of a crisis of flight simulation, new developments are now coming thick and fast in the shape of high-quality releases. True. And PMDG has done a good job at leaving a good first impression. Oskar Wagner was a Captain with a large Swiss airline for many years, flying a large variety of types, and he also worked as a Fokker company test pilot flying new aircraft in preparation for delivery. By clicking Sign up, you agree to receive marketing emails from Insider In this situation, the thrust should drop away almost immediately. The CTDs occur sporadically, and the degree to which they occur depends on the PC configuration and any third-party add-ons that are installed. Includes the 737-900 in passenger configuration with both blended winglets and split scimitar winglet configurations. For my taste, the NGX feels very good. But before we can award the reviewers choice to this add-on, PMDG needs to fix the CTDs for good and then we will follow through. Doubt PMDG modeled this. IRL, a cabin altitude alarm is something you want to address quickly and correctly. Be sure to click the "Show Signatures" box. I really took the system to its extremes here. Nothing to do with the ALT horn going off Paul.The horn will sound if the Cabin Altitude reaches 10,000.That would rarely happen in the RW.Fred. Not entirely sure why, is that a return flight? The order makes mandatory a recommendation that Boeing issued to customers last month. Obviously, at least Im not the only one with a preference for 2D panels. 510 minutes are enough to configure the rest of the systems for home use. Sign up for notifications from Insider! And I also believe that you will quickly lose interest if you operate at the level of merely pressing buttons. Forums Index - All forums; Portal page; MSFS 2020; FSX - FS2004 and Earlier; P3D; X-Plane; Real World Aviation; Other Sims; PC Hardware They were set to 38000ft cruise alt and 150ft landing alt on both occasions. I think I just forgot to turn the L and R recirc fans back on after en Boeing 737 Switch Issue Could Cause Flight Crew - Yahoo! I suppose a cockpit is anything but a quiet place. It added: "Addressing these failures requires immediate action.". The PMDG Boeing 737 NGX does have a few flaws, but they do not detract from the general impression. I hope PMDG for those who use multiple set up monitors and for more realistic the situation add the First Officer 2D Panel as well. I suppose it is simply impossible to program a perfectly flawless FMC. There is always something that hums, buzzes or beeps. To guarantee some ahhhs and ohhhs from the FSX community, PMDG has collaborated closely with Boeing. Doing this at the full operational system depth would, in my opinion, definitely require too large an effort just think of the objections we hear that add-ons should be suitable for casual after-work flights. Once to disengage and once to silence the warning its disengaged. Or if the FMC crashes completely because sloppily programmed clickspots cause me to flip the wrong switch on the overhead and power down the flight computers? Also set the altitude of the airport your landing at. But I have every trust in the expertise of PMDGs team and in the communitys swarm intelligence. Max landing altitude is 8400. You didn't set the bleeds and/or packs correctly after your engine start. A comparison would have to be made, though, across the whole range from the -600 to the -900. With a bit of practice, the FMC can be programmed in 10 minutes at most. I have to say, though, that I dont have any real aircraft experience to compare to, nor do I have the time to climb into one of the fixed-based simulators in my vicinity. The PMDG flies great whether by hand or by autopilot. In my view, PMDG has made clear advances here. Ok thanks, now I know where to look. What is clear, though, is that even the NGX is not immune to such errors. This, too, is a credit to the developers: Consciously crossing the boundary of what had been thought possible to date and pushing it out true to the American pioneer spirit of bigger, faster, further. Rigid body physics for wing and tail surfaces. This is why here, too, I have my personal standard setting, which I never change. It makes the transition to single-engine flight much too harmless. The US aviation watchdog has instructed airlines to inspect a pair of pressure switches found on all Boeing 737 airplanes over concerns that their failure could cause onboard oxygen levels to fall dangerously low. You can also use the RESET in the event one side falls down. Holger: Oski, you fly with a multi-monitor setup, right? Your engine bleeds aren't on. There are a lot of things happening in the flight deck that can cause a warning. Great review, a pleasure to read. Of course, visual treats like these have their price. To me, personally, the interaction concept of a panel is one of the topmost quality aspects of an aircraft add on. stream
A full featured tutorial will guide you through proper operation of the 737 from power up to power down. Even though the systems simulation is extremely comprehensive, the aircraft itself, apart from the FMC, is not particularly complex, as long as you dont punish yourself with systems failures. Feb. 2018 um 9:58 Ursprnglich geschrieben von I learned that many airline pilots would sometimes welcome it if real autopilots flew as precisely as they do in the simulation. Here, again, the fact is that we are not sitting in a Level D simulator but in front of a screen and those are two principally different worlds. What use is the most detailed systems simulation if I have to click through three sub-panels in critical phases of flight with high workload? An unnamed operator reported that the switches failed in tests on three different 737 models. 4 0 obj
And set the local altimeter coming down through the translation level. If I consider how an A320 with FBW behaves which, after all, supports you extremely well during this transition the NGX seems to me to be a bit too harmless in this respect. On the one hand, the specific sound system has a strong influence. Non related things I saw : Your off schedule descent is telling you, you never reached that altitude. Surprising, but its a fact. Why Cabin Altitude Warning - PMDG Simulations is there a way to increase the max cabin altitude setting that is allowed before the alarm is triggered. Honeywell or Collins MCP? . You have duel bleed trip off and ZERO duct pressure therefore not pressurizing. Press J to jump to the feed. You took the time to be here, we want to get to know you. In the final evaluation, though, my opinion is that the NGX is still comparable to other complex aircraft add-ons. To me, the acoustic environment in the cockpit is tightly woven and convincing. !v2c6a=`JK\"@ O)g]BjesUb*P8z:^PHoFs\m)?)ne'k&! Updated 737 options packages reflecting operational improvements and changes to the global 737 fleet. Just two questions: what do T/C and T/D mean in the plan map? PMDGs customized, flight model with enhanced physics augmentation. Cabin Altitude: Controllable or Uncontrollable - YouTube PMDG 737 Access your favorite topics in a personalized feed while you're on the go. We use cookies to improve your experience on our site and to show you personalised advertising. If this is your first visit, be sure to
What use is the most detailed systems simulation if I have to click through three sub-panels in critical phases of flight with high workload? Is it even possible that this PMDG software can simulate a Boeing 737 realistically? In addition to the performance problems on older systems, which were to be expected, there were also reports of inexplicable crashes CTDs and freezes. There is an amusing aspect to the image update of the NGX in the external view. I suppose a cockpit is anything but a quiet place. Made me wish I had already migrated to FSX. There is no perfect add-on! But I think if you press trip reset on the air con panel it should extinguish Ryzen 9 5900X, RX 6900XT, 32GB DDR4 RAM @3600MHz, 4k. There is one thing you simply have to realize today: Given the high memory requirements of complex simulations, youre simply better off with a 64-bit system because, as a rule, the address space is large enough in contrast to 32-bit systems, where you quickly reach the limits. You will become aware of many details you would not previously have paid attention to.
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