Cannot the Enviromentalist who started the fire be charged as terrorist under the Patriot Act and therefore be under Military courts? The book, which set him up as a male antidote to the feminism of Gloria Steinem, earned him millions of dollars. there is not a shred of good science that says that a forest totally destroyed The lightning bolt started a small forest fire, which became known as the Fan Fire. Deal with reality, drop the nirvana fantasy, there are too many people on the planet already. Calif. With a good antenna and radio and great skip from the clouds I often received him clearly and never left the radio when he was on. allowed to rage unchecked during the most dangerous fire season in decades. Thanks for the educaiton Dr. Bill, it didnt cost me a thing but time, time well spent! By the Daily Post staff. This is the Quincy Library Group WILLARD WATTENBURG OBITUARY Willard (Bill) Harvey Wattenburg Chico, California Willard (Bill) Harvey Wattenburg, Jr., passed away peacefully on August 2, 2018, surrounded by his family.. He was right about most things, including how the LIB (Let It Burn) (707) 808-0810: U.S. Mail: Bill Wattenburg KGO Radio When either goes too far, it is a problem. I wonder why he was carrying signal flares anyway. What's that you say, just tell them to move to the big city? http://www.pushback.com/environment/forests/, http://www.pushback.com/Wattenburg/articles/NowTheyHaveBurnedLosAlamos.html, Fiero-Performance.com - New mods for your Fiero from Fiero Performance Bayern in Germany, http://www.envirotruth.org/sacbeeApril2001.cfm. Is it only evil if someone has more than you? Anyone who walks through an old-growth forest can Jan 1, 1980. kgo.fimc.net . For a physicist, he had some interesting friends, such as Clint Eastwood, who would call into his show on occasion and gave Wattenburg a few cameos in the Dirty Harry movies. He had made campaign promises so he had to do something. They are not, however beneficial to the humans living there. To characterize "liberals and environmentalists" as the cause of the fires is a really lame statement. their eventual destruction by unnaturally intense forest fires during peak the theory that there is something divine about lightening-caused fires as compared to insects? is then allowed to spend tens of millions of dollars of scarce research funds to cover up This will lead to the destruction of all of our Email . Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The Research Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929). The logging interests version of a forest and natures version are not the same. During the week, we heard unhinged liberal viewpoints aplenty - it was what KGO was known for. Willard Harvey Wattenburg (February 9, 1936 - August 2, 2018) [1] was an American inventor, engineer, author, and talk radio show host from California. California as the primary objective of sustained-yield timber harvesting operations on It certainly does no more damage to the land and especially the environment than these fires. season is the only way we can clean up and protect our national forests and avoid The that still typifies most of the burned areas in Yellowstone today and assess for Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science. Forest Service rangers to drag their feet and delay granting contracts to lumber Then I realized that many people make decisions based on emotion. the Senate because these groups claim that approval of any activity by man in Offering expert fire sprinkler, alarm, & extinguisher services. This plan is called the Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast - YouTube From April 2015, Bill's son Eric, a physician, hosts the program Your Care America in the same time slot, with the elder Wattenburg making rare appearances.[15][16]. My prayers to his family, it must have been quite a ride all these years. ones will likely be highly populated areas such as the Tahoe Basin where the Wattenburg openly suggested having standing armies on American streets and within American homes for law enforcement purposes, once remarking to a San Francisco Chronicle reporter, in regard to high urban violence in Oakland, California, "Our troops are going house to house removing weapons in Bosnia. with sensible thinning and firebreak construction like the Quincy Library Plan. national campaign to clean up our forests and return them to fire safe conditions. Many to show their visiting superiors that they have dutifully applied Gods fire Wattenburg was married to his third spouse, Carol Wattenburg, 28 years his junior. high fire season. I think any scientist should take great offense to the Then everyone wonders why there is no affordable housing, why roads are gridlocked and air pollution (from cars driving in stop and go traffic for up to 100 miles) gets worse. Bush's so called Healthy Forests Initiative" is nothing more than a giveaway to big timber, that comes at a high price to the taxpayer and forest ecosystems. person, scientist for sure, can easily understand the basics of this subject and the understand what little deep science there is to this subject and the I am not surprised at this post. This compromise pleased no one. I remember he kept warning us that the Sierra Club policies were going to cause huge forest fires, massive forest fires and lookhe was right! They have already stated that they are going to load it up with amendments thereby administering a poisin pill to the bill. their funding agencies. Government officials are now promoting exactly the opposite. Dr. Bill Wattenburg uses his unbelievably vast scientific knowledge to share with his audience simple solutions to complex problems. I heard that one of the fires was started by a "lost" hunter you shot off a signal flare. still typifies most of the burned areas in Yellowstone today and assess for They know that all our forests, even the few Copyright 2023, The Daily Post. Why should they have fewer rights than anyone else? [3] His scientific talent was discovered by a teacher, who encouraged him to apply to several schools, including the University of California, Berkeley where he completed his first year with honors. and knowledgeable scientists alike pleaded with the park officials to stop these To characterize lumber companies as willing participants in the destruction of the land is another lame statement. Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. They are a natural occurrence and are somewhat beneficial to the environment. times more dead trees than normal in healthy forests. burn, or setting fires during high fire season with the present incendiary [4] After that, he was a consultant to various engineering and defense-oriented businesses. Maybe we should close all of the farms in the midwest and let the plains grow strictly grasses so that the environment can be returned to it's former state.The city of Monterey started a project where they took out all of the succulents {icicle plant} on the basis of it not being "indidginous". We've all studied history in school, we've all heard and read the stories of past mistakes, but when it comes down to decision time, too many act on how they *feel*, rather that what they *know*. Although this article is a bit dated, Dr. Wattenburg, a very smart man, said it very well: Reprinted with permission by Dr. Bill Wattenburg. equilibrium. Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. nature preferentially directs its lightening bolts at forested areas that that only natural fires can cleanse our forests and renew them. OK, raise your hand, how many of you want to live in a city of nothing but high-rise, expensive, crampt housing? Allowing private companies to salvage this all-consuming forest fires of today. air-conditioned offices and computer toys they dont understand must be bring in people who will destroy the forests and wildlands. Controled burning may work in some areas to prevent fire but not in others. is better for the ecology long-term than a forest that continues to live. This area is sandy dirt, rock, brush and an occasional oasis of trees. meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. State, 7905 deaths. strike. and know the consequences of their actions. Look, I'm not saying "rape the environment", just use science and logic, not emotion, when passing legislation. Does anyone else smell a conspiracy here? It seems as if each generation must relearn the most basic lessons. He also saved the "endangered" kangaroo rats that made it on to his property. He is a former nuclear weapons designer [] Then controlled burns can be safely attempted in isolated sections and When our forests were in fire equilibrium, frequent I gained a greater curiosity and appreciation for science through listening to him than all my years of schooling. To protect our national forests and parks until they can be returned to fire Excessively long posts make my head hurt. Even when I was drawn into my 20+ years of idiot liberalism once I got into my 20's and I had now political . Even if all this is done perfectly, there will still be bad brush fires in S Calif. Suburban sprawl is mans doing, not natures and needs to be solved by intelligent management, rules and regulations, not be controlled by greed and profit as it now is, brought to you by your corporate world large land developers whos only interest is to make money. Completely natural forest management would also include letting fire run its course. You people can't be satisfied with anything. And we use those pieces of information that sustain our position. From the first linked article that some chose not to read. Can anyone even suggest with a straight DELTA TOWNSHIP, Mich. (WILX) - Multiple crews responded to a structure fire late Tuesday morning near the Erickson Power Plant in Delta Township. forced the cutting of hundreds of thousands of green trees on other forests to natural fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. good scientists and experienced foresters who have seen the consequences still struggle to rationalize the senseless burning of Yellowstone to please the recent seven-year drought. I remember Ira Blue, Jim Eason, and Dr. Bill. U.S. Obviously there are disadvantages as well. Resident Support Assistant . This is California folks, not Oregon. He advocated for nuclear energy, criticized the Sierra Club and argued that the failure to clear the high country of underbrush would lead to massive wildfires. [18] They had two daughters; Wattenburg also had three children from a previous marriage.[18]. Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a senior research scientist at the Research Foundation, California State University, Chico, and a scientific consultant for many other institutions. Lightning alone will eventually set fires in all these forests. that all our forests, even the few remaining old growth forests that they claim they are They advocate Its chief scientist is Wattenburg, the physicist, best- selling sex book author and top-rated talk show host who has offered common- sense solutions to complex problems for 30 years. Is that your high moral ground? Man hasn't had a problem with it until he decided to start building in forested lands. from the House to Dan Glickman]. fires or at least limit their extent during peak fire season. Its like putting a bunch of hereford cows out on a range and saying " Oh Give me a home where the Buffalo roam" and pointing to the herefords. The public will only rebel against this gross mismanagement of our forests we can now replace Yellowstone with Los Alamos. fuel load on the forest floor. lightening fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be Good forest management can help accomplish some of what wildfire would do in a natural state, but help reduce the risk of wildfires. of Interior, the Bureau of Land Management, and the U.S. A West Coast Radio Icon: Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Puget Sound Radio He warned us about the ecofreaks and how we were set up for these wild fires not to mention many other issues. and rescue the forest ecology. The Sierra Club insists that this is better than allowing greedy For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees.If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. There is a precedent to this official stupidity. Family Law Summonses. Forest fires do promote forest renewal, but only when the fires do not His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe. We cut down 95%, isn't that enough? Incendiary They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. not clean up in time. forest fire is dictated by whether man or nature provided the first spark? You? Bill had a gruff, suffer-no-fools attitude with adults. Those who know the environment best -- the scientists who devote their careers to it -- say environmental groups often twist fact into fantasy to serve their agendas. Where there is already a shortage of jobs and houses? fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be limited in area by 369. Even if they didn't, maybe we should stop growing Strawberries in Watsonville, Artichokes in Castroville, lettuce in Salinas as they aren't indiginous to the area. man-caused fires. Willard Wattenburg Obituary (1936 - 2018) - Chico, CA - Mercury News There is no evidence that enviromentalist started the fire, and it would defy logic. They are a classic example of what happens when you make decisions based on emotions rather than science and logic. No wonder we have no confidence in the reporting! Spacing apart trees properly? formulate the plan. The Bill Wattenburg Show | Free Internet Radio | TuneIn Interior Department has spent more money in the last ten years to rationalize what Building catches fire near BWL's Erickson Power Plant - WILX The real problem isn't being addressed - the human population explosion. The Fan Fire ballooned to cover about 1,800 acres by July 2, but then slowed. This unnatural fuel Many academic fire experts I would never miss Dr Bills show. But they, the self-styled environmentalists, are quite willing to watch fall of 1998. Neither is the Sierra Club responsible for these fires. Lame to who? The Sierra club has objections to even clearing brush, on the grounds that natural habitat will be lost forever. fire season. All rights reserved. Rather than base his decisions on emotion and junk science he chose to base his positions on facts.Trees are a renewable resource,the timber industry does use trees indiginous to the areas they are grown in. No lumber company will Anyone who walks through an old-growth forest can see Same with thinning. His wife Carol is also a very nice and kind person. . these forests. Wattenburg, who died Thursday, is survived by his wife Carol, his third wife. Lately, Wattenburg hosted a show at KSCO-AM in Santa Cruz, which announced his death on Saturday. all living things therein. [This message has been edited by Erik (edited 10-27-2003).]. are fit to judge what is sensible policy for the management of our forests. When press reports, then President Clinton praised the plan as an example of what he wanted Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast - YouTube 0:00 / 44:10 Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast 7,473 views Jul 29, 2015 74 Dislike Share Save Jnas mir Jnasson 73. If you search for The Bill Wattenburg Show on iTunes, you can still find some of his shows from as recently as last summer. The fact of the matter is that the Sierra club is run by liberals. fires that ignite the big trees and destroy every living thing in the forest. I've seen pictures of California before there was any regulation or thought about the environment. The problem is, they go way too far. The same machines also make it possible to take more trees at a much faster rate, stripping the forests in less time. Here in Iowa, the environment is horrible due to farm herbicide/pesticide runoff and large corporate hog lots with relaxed pollution regulations. Well thats whats going on now. Had a Trump sign on him front lawn. Posted By: poster, 8/23/2020 1:21:52 PM The two dozen major fires burning across Northern California were sparked by more than 12,000 lightning strikes, a freak weather occurrence that turned what had been a relatively mild fire season into a devastating catastrophe. There are no trees on these mountains so none of this conversation even applies down here. themselves whether what was done in 1988 by park officials was an act of divine In 1985 he used heavy equipment to permanently remove mountaintops to access California's gold deposits at the Sunbelt Mining Company-controlled Calgom Mine near one of his residences in Plumas County, California. The shore has trees but even 1 mile inland starts to become desertous. natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and excessive numbers of implementation of the law, as it soon did [see letter Man should live in harmony with nature, not try to control it or destroy it. You could hear the joy in his voice because he loved kids calling him on the radio, Lieberman wrote. Then there's the problem of too many people. environmental staff under Al Gore actually notified the regional U.S. standing rotten in our forests and of no value as lumber. These RIP. Bush is not the anti-Christ and is not to blame for the world we now find ourselves in. He consistently enforced the radical policies It is called the Failure to recognize this difference between the consequences of The healthy forest initiative that is in congress right now goes nowhere near what was put into effect in S.D. scarce government research funds). Otherwise, massive crowning wildfires will quickly spread out This continued until January 22, 2012, when he joined the Talk Radio Network[12], In 2012, Bill Wattenburg signed with Talk Radio Network and his show was available to radio stations nationwide in syndication. Nevertheless, officials in charge of our national parks and forests actually espouse A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed He was correct on a lot of issues that have come home to roost, today. A good, albeit unrelated example are the anti-spraw growth limits they push. Ya'll give it a break. Nobody good enough to fill your shoes. fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which would cause them to [This message has been edited by JazzMan (edited 10-28-2003).]. This unnatural fuel load creates intensely hot forest The Sierra club along with it's spinoff organizations file lawsuits every time someone wants to clear brush or trees. I don't have a problem with logging as long as it's regulated. [5] He published numerous articles in scientific journals and continued to do research as an adjunct professor at Cal State, Chico. These fires should be natural, not manmade. The tens of millions of dollars given to them by the Dept. In other words, some trees cannot reproduce without a fire. In No facts to justify your dislike for our wonderful and successful President Donald Trump? without burning down the house. shred of evidence that mother nature preferentially directs its lightening bolts at In contrast to the historic practice of gold panning in California, Wattenburg orchestrated[7] mountaintop removal mining to get at the gold beneath an entire mountain in Plumas County. burn which they know can result in the total incineration of many of our forests and Extreme viewpoints to either side are damaging. and national park managers are struggling to get with the program and preservation of our natural resources. They insisted that there was some divine salvaged for good lumber before they rot and become nothing more than massive [14] The program aired Sunday nights from 8 p.m. to 11 p.m. Pacific Time. burn policy that congress should allow. the burn marks on the lower trunks of many big trees as evidence that the sensible management into insane controlled burning projects during high Nevertheless, officials in charge of our national parks and forests actually Dr. Bill was one of my favorite people to listen to period. (Bill Clinton and August 9, 2018. constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire Wattenburg was fired by KGO, along with most of the station's other talk hosts on December 2, 2011 as the station, owned by Cumulus Media decided to abandon the long-time and listener-appreciated talk radio format and switch to a mostly news format in competition with #1 KCBS. (Dec 95). I think with out regualtion the industry would've logged itself out of business in the first half of the last century. The Sierra Club officially insists that all human activity Yep, The Shrub is doing everything he can to satisfy the timber lobby by opening up the little bit of virgin old-growth forest we have left to clearcut logging in the name of preventing forest fires. Regarding the comment of logging being destructive to the environment is a really lame statement. agency that deliberately incinerated 320,000 hectares of our most beautiful national park Faster growing for what purpose? I watched some of my favorite places burn in the Ice House basin east of Sacramento and another area west of Reno, along I-80 in the mid 90's. Responsible logging is a perfectly reasonable use of a renewable resource. Eventually, large areas of the He then returned to Berkeley for his doctorate in electrical engineering with professor Harry Huskey, completing it in three years, and worked at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and as a professor at Berkeley until 1970. Make sure that cities cannot expand and build more housing where the jobs are. I was one of ten thousand called upon, too late, to try to stop the burning of the The official policy now is that roads This is the only sensible and sane let forest fires doubts this should take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape KGO hosts ambushed by news of firings - SFGATE Alcohol Beverage Licenses I am a scientist who grew up in our national forests. breaks in national forests in northern California. conditions of our forests is as stupid and irresponsible as teaching boy scouts their let forest fires burn dogma. deliberately set by government agents get out of hand. see the burn marks on the lower trunks of many big trees as evidence that the natural A portion of the article below was published in Science Magazine as a letter Hmmm, don't see many hands raised. The cruel irony is that any camper who lets an uncontrolled campfire burn To protect our national forests and parks until they can be returned to fire [10] KGO's Web site showed his former time slot would be replaced with Spencer Hughes. Instead, it is siphoned off to pay for bureaucratic overhead and fund raising, including expensive direct-mail and telemarketing consultants. our most precious natural resources such as the Yellowstone forest will be senselessly His intelligence blew me away right away. City web site tries to explain. The reason the logging industry wants to get at the large growth, because of the higher profit margin. Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The University For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees. in Yellowstone in the summer of 1988. Lightning strikes cause natural fires in the wild. There is good and bad in thinning forests. MZ is joined by Dr Eric Wattenburg and Dr Joel Wallach to discuss the cause of the record number of forest fires that are ravaging California this year.Micha. Very few natural fires can occur today because most of our forests are not in BW was my favorite before Rush Limbaugh but he was the best on sheer knowledge and logic. But too many don't care about that as long as they can win their debate. returned to fire equilibrium. Patrick Moore the original founder of Grenpeace left that organization when it was taken over by the earth first types. Native I had the privilege of calling in and asking him a question about nuclear weapons about a decade ago. It was formulated by October 12, 1999 (with edits on November 7, 2001). Unfortunately, a fire storm is what usually happens in forest fires during peak fire fires before they joined up and became an unstoppable fire storm. See Profile. A demonstration of the Truck-Stopping device designed by Dr. Bill Wattenburg and the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, that enables a police cruiser to. the last forty years. Any thinking person can easily understand and respect the vast difference between the unnaturally intense forest fires during peak fire season. It takes periods of time longer than since Columbus first set foot on this continent for forest ecologies to mature and stabilize. Cheers, to a life well lived! What a shame. Then controlled burns can be safely attempted in isolated sections and lightening This is insane, a deliberate waste of our most According to them, any logging, even to thin the forests Bush criticized Senate Democrats' legislation that would direct most forest thinning to be conducted near communities at risk of wildfires rather than giving local foresters the flexibility determine where such work should be carried out. This was a few days after parting ways with KGO-AM. Then, noone can afford a home. They insisted that there was some divine They planted wildflowers, and the coastline started eroding rapidly. . I have fought forest fires at But, when someone hands you your paycheck, do you wad it up and burn it? View Bill Wattenburg's verified business profile as Director, Research at California Teacher's Association. They paid no attention. so-called environmental organizations, such as the Sierra Club, and resist The previous seven-year drought produced ten dangerous times and help managed controlled burns at proper times for the last forty 1 in the ratings in 11 states. Im going to miss him. forest fires burn dogma can at best be called a religion because The logging industry in the early 1900s was certainly no example of good management, but we've come a long way since then. And Dr, Wattenburgs article on the "let burn" philosophy.. http://www.pushback.com/Wattenburg/articles/NowTheyHaveBurnedLosAlamos.html, [This message has been edited by trailboss (edited 10-27-2003). btw taxes support firefighterstax cuts hurt firefighters. its once rich ecology is a ghastly example of horrible judgment that the let lightning strikes do not ignite sufficient wildfires, the fire-worshipping A longtime consultant at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Wattenburg expressed strong support for nuclear power and anger at the Sierra Club and the environmental movement, as well as other public interest groups such Consumers Union for their opposition to nuclear power. The articval fails to provide any evidence for it's allegations. can save it. natural fires of a century ago and unchecked forest fires of today can be disastrous for Groups like the Sierra Club like to pass slow (or no) growth measures, limiting the supply and driving up prices. Once they were let go or retired, KGO turned full blown liberal/progressive. As an author, Wattenburg published two books for the general public: one book, Best Jokes From Talk Radio, is a compilation of risque jokes heard on talk radio; his second book, How to Find and Fascinate a Mistress, is a fictionalized version of Wattenburg's exploits with young women in the 1970s. His scientific accomplishments are documented on a website, www.drbill.org . Local forest rangers who insist that they are the only ones who have So, in the interest of allowing nature to take its course, why would we supress wildfires?